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President Bush lets Scooter Libby lick his balls.

Nice. Very nice. Please give me any reason at all why Congress will not proceed with blowing open the entire administration? Please, prove to me why I should have a single ounce of respect for George W. Bush? This is so beyond what Nixon's boys did. I mean, serously, Nixon had his freak on, but this den of scoundrels? This sickens me and insults not only the basic tenets our forefathers sought to uphold, but disrespects every American who believes in our government.

I think I'm going to be sick.

Date: 2007-07-02 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhohanna.livejournal.com
Well, he didn't pardon him. He doesn't have to go to jail, but still has to pay the fine and the probation. And truthfully, SCOOTER didn't do anything wrong. No effing way did he do anything worth 30 months in the Fed. This was a freak show from the beginning and never even should have gotten this far. Besides... even if he did do wrong, he was covering Bushie's ass, so, it was the right thing to do.

Date: 2007-07-02 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ef-ex-ay.livejournal.com
the office of the president should be one of honor. why should he ever needs his ass covered? I understand global politics is dirty business now. it's reality. does not make it right.

Date: 2007-07-03 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhohanna.livejournal.com
I agree with you, I really do. And I really hope (as I did in 2003), that these situations will help people wake up and realize that they need to pay attention to who/what they vote for. :) I feel betrayed and hijacked by my own party, and it sucks balls. But I am not going to walk away, I'm fighting to try to take it back, make things right. I don't know when the GOP started going the way of the looney birds, but somewhere, sense was lost. Sadly, it's the party line that changed, not my heart, and all too many Republicans feel that way. I can tell you when it happened for me, just before Katrina. Mid 2005. And I've been active ever since (well, except for this timing in moving, pain in my butt!) working to get my voice heard at the very least.

*sigh*

I think there is more truth in your statement than you realize, now that it is sinking in. Dunno if you intended it, but it's heavy. :D

Date: 2007-07-03 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ef-ex-ay.livejournal.com
well at least you're not a blind bushite like so many other republicans. p.s. he is not even the biggest problem imho.

I think the biggest problem right now is money. the hearts of men are so easily corrupted. we take the money out of the equation in politics and your pretty much only left with power. and power struggles, to me, are a much easier beast to harness. this whole campaign funding and corporate lobbying of our government is a fracking travesty. OUR GOVERNMENT OFFICES ARE BASICALLY FOR SALE TO THE HIGHEST BIDDERS. excuse the caps. it's not meant as a yell. but the people should be governing the people. not the interests of the fortune 500.

Date: 2007-07-03 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhohanna.livejournal.com
*yay*! No, I'm not... and the ONLY reason I voted for him in 2004 is because I couldn't violate my father's honor and duty to this country by voting for Kerry, who spit upon my father upon his return in 1975. Sad but true. I couldn't do it, and I am not happy about the betrayal he's put us through. I was a little bit more naive 4 years ago. 30 was a shitty year. :P

You art a smart cookie, my dear! You, once again, hit the nail on the head. You can see that particular point rearing it's ugly skull in the push for this horrible immigration reform bill that we just killed (and believe me, I'm ALL for reforming legal immigration and expanding it greatly, but of course, no we can't do that!) - it was all about the cheap labor and corporate greed, and fucking the American citizens that keep this country going.

I've written about 20 letters to officials in the last six weeks... gotten responses on almost all of them too, and my Senator very much heard me. And not just on immigration either, but the Internet Music Murder, all kinds of stuff. It's up to us to get our voices heard... and it's easier now in a state of only 5 million versus 45 million in California. :P

This is also one of the reasons that I think Fred Thompson is the anti-Christ. 17 years lobbying in Washington, only 8 years in the Senate (I can't support Senators for President anyways... in my heart it violates everything the Separation of Powers stands for), and who knows what kind of influence he exercised. I'm sure the dirt-diggers of the 'net will disclose all though.

I've been rather hesitant to lay my hopes at the feet of any single candidate. Mike Huckabee hasn't got the following, and again, a Pastor in the White House? In a theological war with Islam? LOL!!! That's worse than a woman in the White House to them... it's proof we ARE Crusaders. I like Ron Paul, but I don't agree on some of his more 'out there' points. But I've really been supporting Duncan Hunter for years as a Rep. - he was the one I would talk to in SD out there, and he lost everything in the Wildfires and never bitched once. So, that's who I'm watching for. I just know that if we don't vote in the primaries... how can we bitch about the final candidate nominations? :D
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Re: I'll probably lose you here, but..

Date: 2007-07-03 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhohanna.livejournal.com
Believe it or not, I completely agree with you. There are several things I think we can do to help fix things, but in your points before, you've spoken to why we *can't* do that.

There are several people that I know that are way past the revolt point. One of them has 'disappeared' off the 'net, even. So yeah...

I have to say, at the very least... I still believe. At least in principle. I'm pretty disillusioned, already, but I believe. For now.

I'll probably lose you here, but..

Date: 2007-07-03 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ef-ex-ay.livejournal.com
as long as we're talking elections, I have a really dark view on where this country is heading. I'll spare you the details at this point. my point is, this view has prompted me to stop voting as of the last mayoral elections of new orleans. I'm not saying other should stop. I'm just saying that to me, voting says, "I believe in this system. here is the person for the job." and I don't believe in this system anymore. I believe in the idea that america was initially but this is not that. we've really messed things up on a local to global level and I don't know if there's even a hard fix outside of a complete revolt. things get really complicated for me at this point. I mean it's complicated times. but I think this is a good stopping point for me before I get tagged as a terrorist or something...

Date: 2007-07-03 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nawlins-penguin.livejournal.com
You know what, I'm tired of White House semantics. Let's call a spade a spade in the issue. Rove and Libby exposed an active deep cover CIA agent, an grievous offense for anyone in the intelligence community, much less officials with the level of clearance and authority as those two. Libby is a patsy, then he needs to be put down. If not, then I want to know why that fat-ass of a liar Rove still has top-secret clearance when an act of his nature expressly is punishable by revocation of such clearance. Tell me why I don't see charges being brought up on using RNC email for White House business, another expressly forbidden act.

If you're going to let Scooter take the heat, then he better take the heat. If you're going to circumvent the whole process, then I better see some of these presidential wanna-bes drawing up impeachment proceedings across the fucking board. Our country is fucked up because of the greed and pomposity of the worst good ol' boys of all time.

/vent

Date: 2007-07-03 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cybraktif.livejournal.com
IMHO and being exmilitary if any of our guys had pulled some shit like Rove and Libby it is punishable by death. No you cannot pay $250,000 dollars you get to die now. P

Date: 2007-07-03 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oh-really-now.livejournal.com
I agree. Yet, if I get pulled over with a joint in my pocket, I'm getting 10 years.

Date: 2007-07-03 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nawlins-penguin.livejournal.com
Hell, if you have a joint in your pocket you need to be passing by here first. I'll take care of the evidence for you.

Date: 2007-07-03 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhohanna.livejournal.com
Actually, it was Dick Armitage that exposed a no-longer-covert agent that was still under the 2 years of protection past her covert status. D hit this on the head (and he served 2 years at the Pentagon, so he knows a little of which he speaks) - he won't be prosecuted because he served at the pleasure of Clinton, just like Sandy Berger. You want to call a spade a spade, then WHY the fuck hasn't Sandy been prosecuted?

And I'm sorry, the Democrats are STILL the best in the biz where the Boys Club is concerned. Clinton's fucking fingers still smelled like snatch as he lied to the American public, and his fraud of a wife in on the entire act is being allowed to run for the highest office in the land without getting shot down. I'm ashamed as a female to have to put up with her ilk. And yet, he still beat the rap. (believe me, I fight the boys club every fucking day of my life... you KNOW what I've put up with to make it in this industry, and it's no better at the top than it was at the bottom... at least I'm too built to have 5'2" fuckers try to molest me anymore)

Come on now... let's call it like it is - it's POLITICS - and I agree, it's completely disgusting.. but it's not like the American Public is too keen on cleaning house now are they? How long have we been demanding term limits?

Date: 2007-07-03 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhohanna.livejournal.com
PS: *hug* I'm not trying to fight with you... I see all of your points, and at least they aren't regurgitated from Daily Kos.

I was all for impeachment if he signed the shoddy immigration bill that they were trying to ram down the citizens' throats - but since we KEEEEEEELLED it... and Scooter ain't hot enough of an issue to impeach him on - and EVERYONE on talk television agrees, including his biggest opponents, that this was the best step he could make in this instance... and it preserves the Appeal process. I actually agree with Obama on this - NOW is not the time for impeachment, now is the time to take action to make sure this doesn't happen in the next presidential cycle... we're too close to the end. We're going to know who the nominees are by Valentine's Day next year... just seven months away. They can't WAIT to get him out of office and in the meantime make him as ineffectual as possible. :) But it's Congress who is proving to be ineffectual. Pelosi's approval rating in her district has fallen below 50% for the first time ever, all the way down to 29%. *snicker* They're doing it to themselves, and trying to line their pockets the whole way.

It's not just Dems or Republicans, it's the entire system that's broken, but no one cares. TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!

Date: 2007-07-03 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nawlins-penguin.livejournal.com
Baby, you're not fighting with me. Read my profile. I'll have any conversation you want, as you long as you realize that I'm still right, no matter what.

The point still stands. Rove should have had his clearance revoked, not renewed as it was a couple of months ago. Forget about past debts with Clinton. Getting some head in the oval office pales in comparison to having a team of scumbags infiltrating every corner of the administration. I can give you a list of the infamy, but I don't think you want to begin a diatribe of complaint from me. It's too encompassing to compare to any previous President, even Tricky Dick.

Date: 2007-07-03 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhohanna.livejournal.com
*smooooooooch*!

I can't disagree with that, and I certainly agree that Rove is one of the biggest dicks we've seen in a while.

OI! Conference call time... then home! No one came to the office today, so the boss is kicking me out after this lame conference call that no one is showing up for. :)

George Bush's Impeachment

Date: 2007-07-02 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msmoneygirl.livejournal.com
http://bushimpeach.blogspot.com

Date: 2007-07-02 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jodijodijodi.livejournal.com
Sometimes I feel like we have no leadership at all. I can't believe this crap keeps happening and there's no accountability! :/

Date: 2007-07-03 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nawlins-penguin.livejournal.com
Accountability exists only when we, the people, insist it be there. To that extent, letting our respective Representatives and Senators know the fury of our anger is the way to go.

And I really like Biden's move in calling the White House.

Date: 2007-07-03 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ef-ex-ay.livejournal.com
if he was found guilty of what he was indited of in the very country he chose to serve public office, why is 30 months excessive Mr. Bush?

at some point you have to turn the other cheek or kick off the revolution. cuz this middle of the road shit is death.

Date: 2007-07-03 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ef-ex-ay.livejournal.com
!viva quervo!

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